Seeing that the resent surge in hits from Thailand ISPs has subsided, perhaps it is safe to once again come out to play. Tempests in teacups, disgruntled detractors, all hopefully faded to nothing more than an unpleasant memory. I am sometimes drawn to see what lies beyond my field of view. To venture on foot or by vehicle, even metaphorically, to explore what lies around the bend. Often one has a very good idea ahead of time, what is there, but to see it first hand does lend a measure of authenticity and veracity.
With 30 plus years in Bangkok, one might safely assume that I have had a smattering of experience with expat circles. I thought it perhaps presumptuous on my part to assume, however, that my observations were universal. I therefore set out to see if expat fauna of the Rai differed from that of the Big Mango. Not unexpectedly, I found evidence of the usual suspects. Ranging from the dregs to the do-gooders, they were not hard to spot, even with the variance in dress code afforded to this less than urban environment.
As the pot was stirring recently, over I know not what, emails were exchanged that I naively thought were addressed to one individual. I opted not to use the bully pulpit of my blog and instead resorted to emails that were promptly forwarded to a half dozen other individuals. A more sophisticated approach would have been to use the bcc: function in the letterhead of the email. That way, I would have been none the wiser. Subsequently they had me at a disadvantage, knowing what I was saying while I knew nothing of what they were discussing amongst themselves. It all leaves me wondering what could possibly be in it for me, to revisit a repeat engagement.
In a round about way this got me reexamining my readership and from whence it comes. The majority are from English speaking countries, and many but not all, have some sort of Thailand connection. The total number of countries represented is impressive and some seem to use translations. I often wonder how well my words cross from one language to another. I am clearly not someone who picks his topics from news services or other bloggers and therefore I post at irregular intervals. That leaves me wondering why there are so many of you who click so regularly on my page. An RSS feed, set up in one of the many Readers out there, would surely be more functional and alert you to any new postings. Some seem preoccupied with downloading every picture I post, to which I do not object. But then again, one does wonder what is being done with them.
The software which is supposed to tell me who you are and where you are from, leaves me with many more questions than answers. While many of you have been in contact there is an equal number who still lurk in the shadows and keep me guessing. Perhaps that is as it should be. The urge to answer all questions and remove all mystery could lead one down the path to a dreary, less colorful tapestry of life. So part of me wants to know, while another part of me does not. If recent events are anything to go by, perhaps it is best to leave some things to the realm of imagination.
Sunday, April 5, 2009
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11 comments:
1) If you just clicked "comments" to view this page, try clicking the post title "Leaving Questions Unanswered...". You might prefer the look in that format.
2) Has anyone noticed that I grayed down the text of my posts recently? My wife was complaining that the letters were too white and bright for her eyes.
Form my own experiences expat social groups are pretty much the same the world over, to be avoided where possible and if not possible to be limited to short outings away from your own private life. The people you meet who you have other 'things' in common with will likely enter your life at some point in time without if it is to be.
I have found that some HHH circles often draw a type of person(s) who pride themselves in believing they are something either different or above others, yet seldom are more than bored, gossip hungry expats with little social life beyond the weekly runs and local bar.
Personally I return to your site for a quick look because I have learned as much from your comments as I have your musings, I am unable to use certain XML news feeds due to security restrictions at work.
Cant say I noticed the text!
My very biggest problem, which originally didn't seem like a problem since I usually don't like people all that much. Not cause I don't like people, just cause most people are unpleasant. Sad but true. So my biggest hangup I found after living in Thailand for a year plus, was it was easy as pie to make a bevy of females willing to be your friend. But to find one good bloke to swap a few stories or hit the town with. Pretty much impossible. Funny how you can possibly ever get starved for male attention, and overdosed on the female kind. Who would have thought.
Sorry for your bad experiences with the local foreigners up the rai. Guess the problem up there is that too many guys got too much time on their hands, and not english locals to gossip on. You were just the flavour of the month. But try it again. I've tried HHH in a few countries to date, and had more bad than good experiences. But the best was in Bangkok, so they can't be that much different of a breed up in the rai.
Lloyd said...
I have found many expats suffer from the "I have no life so I will move overseas to buy one" syndrome, and have an attitude towards other cultures and people that can have different connotations depending on your point of view.
In response to that:
Stand still, wimp – only failures run off to be expats
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/jeremy_clarkson/article5992555.ece?Submitted=true
I've been reading this series and can't say I'm surprised by the results. Established groups of any nature are always very difficult to penetrate. Group dynamics are group dynamics the world over. I prefer meeting people randomly as individuals. Groupthink.. and group behavior are both crazy-making.
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I always find your blogs interesting. I have also met you on several occasions unlike I hope most of your readership. Although I have very little Idea what went on after the social gathering which I also attended, Partly due to the fact that you don't gossip; quite an annoying trait if I may add ;-) but Joking apart I honestly couldn't see what the fuss was about. We all analyse and 'people watch' from time to time and reach our own conclusions. I think we are all different and very much shaped by our own life experiences. I suspect 30 plus years in a Dog eat Dog, Human Zoo such as Bangkok has made you a very different person to me, who has had 20 years in a very different Dog eat Dog Corporate environment in the UK. Personally I'm burn't out and I Know it, but it has made me a very humble person who is able to mix with the dregs of society quite comfortably these days, only Joking but I just don't judge people on appearances or anything any more. probably a big big mistake on my part and very not Thai. going back to the Social gathering I personally enjoyed it; I was probably too preoccupied with my 'baggage' but I only saw Farangs and Thai wives & children. And everyone knows a Farangs a Farang right and we think too mut. ;-)
apologies for the bad grammer and punctuation my minds as clear as Mud these days.
Gee guys, now I feel all warm and fuzzy, like I have been validated.
Lloyd
You can click as often as you want. You have pride of place, as often being the first one out the gate, with a comment or remark. Thanks for that.
Our local HHH is a once a month walk. Probably has to do with the chosen terrain and the average age of the male participants. As would be expected the Thai women do an excellent job with food preparation, however.
Bodhi
I haven't read it, but I have seen that Jeremy Clarkson piece making the rounds in blogs. Of course none of it applies to the illustrious readers of this page or its author;) Besides I was so young when I arrived I hadn't had a chance to fail yet.
I think you are being too apologetic about not liking people. There just aren't that many worth liking. In expat groups I often find myself talking with the Thais instead of the Farangs. For me Farangs only work as a, one on one, conversation.
Chani
Good to hear form you again. In particular I have noticed that group leaders can be quite out of touch. Being the center of attention and treated with such deference by the others, it is not surprising that their world view can get a little distorted.
Anony
Lets face it you're just a much nicer guy than I am. I do indeed judge people, but I'm usually pretty good at hiding what that judgement is. It is only for personal reference. Where it shows is who I spend time with. Life is too short to spend putting up with people or groups you don't particularly like. For those I do like there is an open door policy. I'm pretty sure you know where you fit in the scheme of things.
Chris (comment rejected)
Such language sir. Unfortunately my wife read your profanity laced rant before I did. She is somewhat less prepared, than I, to deal with such disgusting manners. Needless to say I am not going to subject my readers to the same indignity and mortification already inflicted on my unsuspecting wife.
Today is the day I can keep my reading on your last post through, sentence by sentence, and get a summary for myself not bother to right click finding dictionary. I might not get a whole subjective through my head where is idle to learn any new words, but even so I am urged to reach out world on your post. Just to be alarmed if you would be confused after you read all through, I might talk about somethings beyond your topic, that because I am ESL, but I'll try my best.
I myself not a questioning person just like all regular Thais, thus less initial deep thoughts of why I make decision to do something for instance,click regularly on your page. Once in a while your writing has ignited my head to take time to think, and today I have some answer in particular of this subject.
I like to browse in the ocean of internet. One of my interest is reading people from other countries perceive Thailand,Thai citizen,Thai food, Thai culture etc everything tag Thai.I was born with curiosities,again as regular Thais:)
I am a Thai woman married with foreigner living happily out of Thailand, for those would be a summarize answer. I am attracted to foreigner's blogs specifically with mentioning about Thai women.
I am sad when reading a negative expressions but it would be greatly help to be more tolerated,that means the more I have read the faster I let it go. Do I stick on those kind of blogs, the answer is not because I hate to see those kind of ads often. Do I have any response back? Answer's No., but may be I will one day in the future.
Nevertheless, your web is the one I keep checking back, sometime it was very long gap to see your new post however I can read comments section. Despite of like to see your pictures that have many scenes similar with where I was growing up, I like to read on the comments where you communicate back and forth with your readers, it's fruitfully opinions, and I like that your web page has ads free.
At last, I would say, when Thais are quiet, and have such a little expression, that doesn't mean we don't have any consideration,
otherwise you would see many blogs as such "The United of Thais Villager"
Why don't you put your "book form" on the side, so it can be seen when first open, it's easier to find.
Anon
Your wish is my command. The Book Form now has a link on the side, as per your request. I can also assure you that this site will stay ad free. Knowing that there are Thais, and in particular Thai Women, reading these pages serves as additional motivation to keep the language appropriate. Thank you for taking the time to comment today.
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